I had hoped that there would have been some discipline taken at S.K.C.F. Really a profit submitting to a preacher? The 5 fold ministry is found in Eph.4:11 and there is no priesthood mentioned, it is about equipping the church. We find out who Bob Jones White Talking Horse is and whom the angel of the Lord is. Bob Jones experienced correction., not rejection. In 2020, GOD TV reported about Bob Jones prophecy on the Kansas City Chiefs. . The Pentecostal-charismatic movement is one of the major building blocks of the end-time, one-world church, and young people in particular need to be informed and forewarned. I had hoped that there would have been some discipline taken at S.K.C.F. It was so bizarre I couldnt believe anybody could think of something like that. We had a youth camp there. This is hardly the case as they use Revelation 19:10-11 as a proof text. Now we have a church out of a church with new leadership to finally have us on the right foundation. This is actually grace for the church now, because 100% accuracy in this ministry would bring a level of accountability to the church which she is too immature to bear at this time. and they would accept me in their midst. Because Bob had had a long history of rejection over a number of years cause every time he prophesied, something would happen. Isaiah 9:15: "The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail." Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980's. Sir Robert 'Bob' Jones now New Zealand's largest private office building owner in Wellington and Auckland, and with substantial holdings in Sydney, totalling in excess of a billion dollars is a property investor, author and former politician, who has written fiction as well as books on property investment, selections of his newspaper and magazine columns, and reminiscences of . Bonnie was at his side. . (P88, p. 30) The Lord began to dealsovereignlywith him in the prophetic realm; he began to see technicolor visions in 1974and he said the Lord gave him nearly 100 dreams and visions concerning this movement over that 9-year periodfrom 74 to 83. , We need not wonder whether He [Jesus] will come back; HE CANNOT. Change). Heres another good one.. Before Gods Spirit is actually poured out in Israel and then to the world there is another spirit that will increase to bring in the false Christ, that will be empower people to do great signs and wonders by neglecting doctrine. A violet flame is able to extinguish illnesses according to New age teaching. Its when I got saved, I started knowin the Lord. They will move into things of the supernatural that no one has ever moved in before. he said,Because they rejected me many placesand the Lord has shown me many times, and He (God) said this, this group that was yet to come, He said they would never, ever reject me. He said, This is my family till the end. And I thought, Hes got to be the false prophet for sure. Any guy that prophesies that Imgoing to accept him, he is for sure the false prophet. I write mainly, not to express myself, but to encourage and bless people through writing. . And a lot of people have had a lot of good laughs about it. SUMMARY AND OBSERVATIONS a. I had never heard such a claim. Your email address will not be published. Box 838 Pineville, NC 28134-0838. Furthermore, it has come to my attention thathe prophesied that seven young men would die and that the pastor and church would not listen to him. Their 2020 super bowl win made headlines as it was a historical moment for the Chiefs as it had been 50 long years since their last championship. February of every year (to us) is a prophetic type of the Second Passover, a parallel to the Hebrew second month. According to Bob Jones when he was 13- The first time I ever seen the white horse was when an angel called Gabriel was riding. The Holy of Holies which your children are called to enter in can crash that threshold. seven young people under 30 died in a 6-week period. . Quoting Jesus on the last days: Matthew 24:11And many false prophets will arise, and will mislead many. (NASV) Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect. (NASV). Bickle said the vision eventually took place, Jones states You guys are never going to learn the language of the Spirit, are you?When they asked Jones why Don appeared and not Jesus, Jones answered, Jesus appears in thousands of different faces to portray something. Bickle: He was trying to say, Im your friend, I am your familiar friend and Im going to show you all things so you can move in the power of the Spirit (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations,transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988). Feb.4, 1930 - Feb.14, 2014 Bob Jones' death is being mourned by Christians around the world, while his life is being recounted and celebrated. Yesterday it was Toronto, today we have the freshfire revival in Lakeland, tomorrow it will be somewhere else. There are going to be thousands of young people gathered from around the world. I did not know until after I had sensed an uneasiness in my spirit about Mike, that Mike was the pastor of the church. I wholeheartedly agree with the conclusions you presented in your letter. In fact Jones has seen the next 50 years unfold, and Jesus did not come back, instead we get to establish the kingdom on earth. The Scroll Opened & Unrolled. For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? (1 Peter 2:20). I didnt haveever any trouble seem the devil!When theyd take over me, Id go completely wackyjust lookin for trouble. A memo dated Nov. 10, 1992 listed Bob's itinerary for an Apr. As such we prayerfully rely on the support of our readers/listeners. It is devils according to his own experience? The book deals extensively with the theological errors of the Pentecostal-charismatic movements (exalting experience over Scripture, emphasis on the miraculous, the continuation of Messianic and apostolic miracles and sign gifts, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the baptism of fire, tongues speaking, physical healing guaranteed in the atonement, spirit slaying, spirit drunkenness, visions of Jesus, trips to heaven, women preachers, and ecumenism). What bothered me the most was Viola and I had some blood kin in there too. It got dangerous. The 2000 would reveal the glory of God. When Shielagh Clark told Bob Jones University officials in 2005 that she had been sexually assaulted by . We already know what this means by Jones teachings- that the church will produce little God/men, who are all Melchizedik priests,sounds like the Latter Rain plan. MB: =Mike BickleWell, I believe our history is deeply tied up, in a human sense, to Bob JonesAnd I believe that Gods goodness towards us, giving us this history, began when the Lord separated Bob Jones many, many years ago. Way of Life's content falls into two categories: sharable and non-sharable. In a television broadcast in May 1988 Swaggart had the audacity to boast, You are looking at a clean preacher! and I do not lie! (Don Matzat, The Same Ol' Jimmy,, , May 16, 1988). Yes, Im going to write and spread His love because I love Him and His people, and my heart is to live for Him. A Memorial service will be held for Viola, wife of Bob Jones, at Heritage International Ministries, Fort Mill, South Carolina on Wednesday at 7pm. Bob Jones experienced correction., not rejection. One plague was influenza while the other was like influenza in nature. It sounds more like the Greek myths to me. . He met Jesus face to face as there were two lines there; One going to everlasting destruction and one leading to eternal life. Like Daniel who functioned at an incredible level, Bob has often told leaders their dreams and experiences, as well . Incredible as it seems, Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. I said, A movement? He said, Oh, the Lord told me you wouldnt know anything about it. Hinn admitted to being with White in Rome and having a friendship and an inappropriate relationship with her, but both parties claimed there was no affair. Prophecy is increasing in purity, but there is a still a long way to go for those who walk in this ministry. There will bepeople standing against you, and the Lord says, Do not answer them, as the Lord Himself will answer them.*Augustine Acula was defrocked a few years later for homosexual activity, and viewed as a false prophet. Did I have enough time? And there was a man that walked beside me and he said, You can look now, Bob, and see and I looked down and my robe was like crystal light (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988. hes went to bed at night and woke up the next morning with a big red streak across his face or a big cut, gash on his arm. , September 2008). We dont throw out the baby with the bath water. Everything about Paul was often dramatic! Now 2000 years ago the Savior was revealed. She lost possession, through foreclosure, of the $4.5 million compound that formerly housed her ministry. When you drink enough, you become possessedI become possessed (F89, p. 29), 3. And were looking through the seeds and thisll be your grandkids. IN 1974. concerning this mans behavior, but to my horror the leadership there began to put a great deal of stock in his prophesies. . At the age of 13 or 15 (two different accounts), he supposedly is taken to heaven, and a guide who appears looking like red sunglasses, protects him from Gods glory, saying, this was Gods way of calling and commissioning him for their new important earth-changing work that could go out from Americas Midwest., 20 years of debauchery, drinking and demonization led him to Topeka Veterans Hospital mental ward, where, on drugs, this devil come and he said, Everybody has just mistreated you all your life. And in thy name cast out devils and in thy name done many wonderful works? Christians do not bow before anything but God. Before the prophetic minister Bob Jones passed away in 2014, he released a prophetic word to Shawn Bolz. December 28, and as usual in the presence of this prophet I brought my iphone and recorded the conversation. BOB JONES BEGINS HAVING TECHNICOLOR VISIONSOFTEN BETWEEN FIVE AND TEN A NIGHTAND SUPPOSEDLY HAS HAD THEM FOR 15 YEARS! The third was Billy Graham on February 21, 2018. I said, A movement? He said, Oh, the Lord told me you wouldnt know anything about it. Perhaps this is because Swaggart had sought counseling from Oral Roberts, and Roberts had observed demons with long fingernails digging into Swaggarts flesh and had cast them out (. I want to commend you for your stand regarding the Kansas City Fellowship. Jones claimed to have had 100 "open visions" giving him revelation about this movement. Moments with Our Master 365 Day Devotional [book], Grow in Christ Edification Pack Special [books], 40 Bible Verses Every Disciple MUST Know! Jones said: all of a sudden, the pain was gone. Many years later is when he entered into our world. And its going to be those that have that earring in and hear what God is saying. . Facebook, 13 Feb. 2023, https://www.facebook.com/vladhungrygen/posts/753777992780266, Furthermore, Pastor Vlad revealed that a revival also broke out on the campus 50 years ago in February 1970., https://www.facebook.com/vladhungrygen/posts/753777992780266, After the dean invited students to share testimonies at the chapel service, students continued worshipping and praying for 144 hours, he said. And it will start a Gods fire( Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, 1988. copyright 2013, Way of Life Literature It was after Ford threatened to sue, that Crouch paid almost a half-million dollars to keep the matter quiet. Ever since that time in 74 when he was filled with the Holy Spirit he began to see the technicolor visions and the Lord began to visit him. There visions can mean anything they want as they use allegorical interpretations for their visions, as comets and floods all have an accompanying spiritual meaning that makes sense only to the initiate. At the same time, it was clear Paul was a gifted prophet. We pray God will use it to open the eyes of many and to help keep many of His children out of such deception. A former charismatic, said, The book is excellent and I have no doubt whatever that the Lord is going to use it in a mighty way. The pastor finally took another brother with him and asked Bob not to speak out in the servicesto be quiet in services for a period of 30 days. Mike Bickle is not anymore reassuring:Now, obviously, probably about 80% of whats in the Body of Christ thats called prophecy is fleshiness. By this reckoning, February 10 is the selection of the lambs, February 14 is the killing of . to one aspiring to public ministry. They were not in sin. If this is accurate, (and there is not reason for him to say this unless it is), then the signs and wonders manifested by Jones and other prophets may not be from God at all. .until he met Mike Bickle. Unless the LORD builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Ps.127:1 According to the grace of God given to me, like a skilled master builder I laid a foundation, and someone else is building upon it. . Savchuk, Vlad [@vladhungrygen]. J.R. turned a forklift over and accidentally killed himself while at work at Armco Steel. Bob was known as a contemporary prophet with a great love for the Lord Jesus and His truth. In the 1990's, we began to get a revelation of the Government of God. coming into that Divine Nature of Jesus Christ[Bob Jones, transcribed from 1988 tape Interview Bob Jones with Mike Bickle). fromhttp://www.letusreason.org/Latrain52.htm. 3:10-13, Recing Bob Jones false prophecies was not Mikes first major error. So the church has not been built on it and those who rule in it will have defeated death and become God-men. We ask You to mature it. We dont take it as serious in the early days as we will in the days to come(Media Spotlight- THE RESTORATION OF APOSTLES AND PROPHETS AND THE KANSAS CITY- VINEYARD CONNECTION byAlbert James Dager). Jones, 63, was removed from his church duties for an undetermined amount of time, Gulliksen said. And when that happens that means youve got some incense thats gone up. I've been looking forward to this episode for a few weeks! reported that Paul Crouch of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) had paid $425,000 in 1998 to Enoch Lonnie Ford, an employee at TBN, to keep him from going public with his allegation that they had a homosexual encounter. - "About" David Cloud concerning this mans behavior, but to my horror the leadership there began to put a great deal of stock in his prophesies. , April 11, 2009). Immortalization for a Melchizedek Priesthood? My wife, who never missed a service and has a better memory than I do, verifies this fact. And youll bring it into being. The 2020s reveal the rest of God. The part that is true is that Bob had been prophesying and reporting his dreams and predictions for years in Kansas City. Jones has been found to need a translator for his speaking even though it is in English because of his incoherence in communication (one translator for Jones is Paul Keith Davis of White Dove ministry). But on repentance, testimonies, the manifest presence of God., ______________________ Bob's life as a seer and messenger from God was one that few people understood. His first wife, who accused him of fathering a child out of wedlock, took their three children and moved to Hawaii, but Clarence went right on as if nothing had happened . (Why dont you) run away tonight and go back to town and get your gun and go kill them people, and then come back and sign into Veterans Hospital. Bob went on to say the word he was remembering said "a wind would blow out of Canada in the Northwest, and it would come and settle in Washington [state]. Two nights! For men like me the Spirit of Elijah has fallen upon. Our primary goal with the FBIS is to provide material to assist preachers in the edification and protection of the churches. https://thegovernmentalgoalsofgodtvpart2.wordpress.com/2008/09/06/god-tv-and-the-kcp-bob-jones-mike-bickle-john-paul-jackson-paul-cain-and-the-ernie-gruen-report-exposing-them-below/, Bob Jones and Mike Bickle channel demonic revelations. They themselves will put death itself underneath their feet a Church that has reached the full maturity of the god-man! They have been waiting on promises that go back many, many years. Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, and Paul Cain, who were known as the 'Kansas City Prophets,' were all buried on 2/22 This win is on a palindrome day of 02/02/2020 (hasn't happened for 909 years). And the Church that is raising up in the government will be the head and the covering for them. Copyright 2022 GOD TV, Simco Media LLC. We're referring to the arrest of 30-year-old entertainment lawyer Benjamin Lawson Adams - a former graduate of Bob Jones Academy and a former student at Bob Jones University. a prophet or apostle, there is a huge denial, out of naivety and fear, not knowing the Scriptures nor correct Biblical response. Whats more, the prophecy said it would be a sign of a revival coming to America. . Bob Jones is remembered for his many end-time prophetic visions that have come to pass, including a prophetic word about the current corona virus pandemic given many years ago:". exposed his extravagant lifestyle and his shady fund-raising practices. I have only listened to a few of the tapes from Kansas City Fellowship, and read only a few of their publications. Full updates of Bonnie Jones' and or Lyn Kost's ministry available at. Furthermore, Bob recounts that at the funeral God tells him that more are still to die, and then two or three days later a young man drowns in a lagoon. February 14, 2014. The 2000's will be the Glory of God. Being interviewed by Rick Joyner , he says that God and the angels have their hands cuffed, and it's up to us to speak things into existence because God . This is exactly the type of tongues I have heard dozens of times at Pentecostal and charismatic meetings in various parts of the world, but it is nonsense. Ene mine mo, sah rah el me sah rah me (. Amen! The people and pastor grew weary of this continuous wearisome foretelling of earthquakes and tragedies coming until I, as pastor and shepherd of the sheep, asked Bob Jones to come with me and another pastor to my study to counsel him. his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: The part that is true is that Bob had been prophesying and reporting his dreams and predictions for years in Kansas City. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. . 6He must not be a recent convert, or he may become conceited and fall under the same judgment as the devil. And the Lord was tellin me what they were doin. This understanding is so important that we have devoted Section III entirely to giving a history of Bob Jones background, providing examples of his bizarre experiences, and establishing his significance to the Movement. We need to remember that signs and wonders alone in no way assure that the source is God. And what youll do, youll proclaim it. Bob Jones and his supernatural visions and experiences are foundational to Kansas City Fellowship and their Movement.b.Bobs background includes alcoholism, abandonment to sin, demon possession, drug addiction, and time in a mental institution; from this background he does a sudden 180 degree turn to become a major prophet of God for the last days.c.This man who saw demons regularly and partied with them prior to salvation now begins seeing angels and having out-of-body experiences, etc. There is only one seed we need to be concerned about- it is the word of God which we are actually reborn with (1 Pt.1:23) not a physical seed of man. Home Secretary Suella Braverman has expressed her concern after police recorded a 'hate incident' at a school after pupils caused 'slight damage' to a copy of the Quran when it fell on the floor . http://www.banner.org.uk/kcp/Abberent%20Practises.pdf p.41, Bob and Mikes VersionA FABRICATED STORY CONCERNING BOB JONES p.42 The following story, which is often told by Mike Bickle to give credibility to Bob Jones as a prophet, is a complete fabrication of facts. You stood before the Lord BJ: He was showing me a throne room and He was showing me a seat that I needed to sit in one dayand there was a guide that stood in front of me, and he was like red sunglasses (F88, p.2-3)/, http://www.bobjones.org/?zone=/unionactive/view_page.cfm&page= 2020202020Photos202620Bio 27s2020202020 Bob Jones Web Site, When only seven years old and walking on a dirt road in Arkansas; the Arch Angel Gabriel appeared to Bob Jones on a white horse and blew a double silver trumpet in his face. But a lot of people have got healed by it, too. The greatest awakening of all time was going to be in the Soviet Union. He said that he had heard the audible voice of the Lord about my life. Prophet Bob Jones is pictured here prophesying to the first nations (Native American) people, as well as delivering a powerful word to the believers who came for a touch of Heaven. According to Bob, God revealed to him, in a vision, that revival would come when the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Prophecy is primarily for speak(ing) to men for their edification, encouragement, and comfort. 4. , Popoff replied that his wife only supplied him with about 50% of the information, and the rest he got from the Lord! Ismiled and said nothing, I even made several attempts at unity only to find that I had been prophesied over by another of the resident prophets. Mike Bickle asked him in a dialogue You say that you saw the throne room? . , December 2015, Bakker agreed with Tom Horns prediction that the Antichrist will come in 2016. , June 3, 1988, p. 5). Instagram, 13 Feb. 2023, https://www.instagram.com/p/Colp6OgrUu-/. . I didnt have cancer. We do not solicit funds from those who do not agree with our preaching and who are not helped by these publications. Bonnie Jones has a great love for the Lord, the Word, and the Cross of Jesus. Mikes whole ministry was riddled with false directives, false prophecy and revelation, and false doctrine. Does this make sense or is it more correct that these prophets are not 100% right because they are not speaking for God who is ALWAYS 100% right. Watch out, as there will be a false prophet in your midst in the early days. By the way, we discovered it; so there is no mystery about that. Evangelistic career. 3, No. Ernie Gruen Report p.41 (bob Comes To Kansas City Fellowship) 4. If you want to change something, you must believe it enough to speak it. They are listening to tails. RUN from this witchcraft which is designed to bring you under the control of Satan's warlocks pretending to have a word for you as a prophet of God! During the height of . . T he death of Bob Jones, Sr., at age 84 last month closed the era of hard-hitting evangelists of the Billy Sunday ilk, which reached its peak between the two world wars. So we realize that; so whats our reaction to that? .And now my government is in place, and in a time of great stress I shall bring forth my next step, for Toronto was a step, Brownsville was another step; My next step will be my glory, and signs like you have never seen before. Next was Chuck-JOHNEL on February 10, 2018. The 1990s reveal the government of God. Biblical tongues were real languages that were spoken miraculously by those who had never learned the languages. But he just cant seem to get the accuracy level past first grade prognostics. They consist of Voices, angels, and translations to heaven which give him revelations that are not only contrary to Scripture but are easily categorized as of the New Age variety of spirituality. We find out who Bob Jones White Talking Horse is and whom the angel of the Lord is. That is not a biblical reason for divorce. Bob Jones went home to be with the Lord on Valentines Day 2014. Check out this powerful book on the Presence of the Holy Spirit. This is the second day that Bob Jones has been here to impart. Offering: We take up a quarterly offering to fund this ministry, and those who use the materials are expected to participate (Galatians 6:6) if they can. Isa 9:15: The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail.. 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