Work on aviation training company Simcom International Corp.'s future Orlando headquarters is taking off. AVwebpublisher Carl Marbach also wrote up his impressions after he went through recurrenttraining at RTC for his Aerostar 601l. And again, and again, and again. SimCom also has obtained FAA approval for a Citation single-pilot course/type rating thats conducted entirely in one of the companys simulators. Adjust the weather to be exactly what you want. Even little things like a runway incursion causing you to go around just cant be done realistically in the airplane, but are trivial in the sim. Accidentstatistics back this up: pilots who get regular sim training are far safer than those whodont. Previous Experience Nevertheless, we recognize that in-airplane training is valuable. But Imabsolutely convinced that its well worth the cost. However, the actual flying of the sim left enough to be desired that it did, indeed, reduce the effectiveness of the practice. Now offering Gulfstream G650, Challenger 300/350, Phenom 300, and Pilatus PC-12NGx training! 2056 Palomar Airport Road Orlando, FL NOTE: In 1998, FlightSafety introduced a new Operational Recurrentcourse in its Cessna 300/400 program that offers a similar LOFT emphasis. Now, if you think about it, the same idea applies to training. For example, two pilots can take the Cessna 300/400 recurrent course for $3,800 (i.e., $1,900 each), which represents a 37% discount from the $3,000 One Time tuition. SIMCOM advertises state-of-the-art simulators. That might be true for other aircraft, but the Twin Cessna was, to be blunt, old, tired, far from modern, and simply buggy. We got some unpleasant stories from users on the broken sim issue. 700 Wyoming The company has also recently introduced a new Pilatus PC-12 New Generation simulator, a Socata TBM 850 simulator with a Garmin G1000 panel, and will offer a King Air 350 simulator with Collins Pro Line 21 avionics by later this summer. There are a few things that a simulator doesnt do as well as an airplane. As you get near the end of sim training, ask the instructor for her or his scenario. Every instructor who knows his or her airplane well has one. $13,200, PremAir, Inc. Rating $5,500, Pan Am Aviation A modest airplane will cost over $100 per hour. Most sims have reasonably accurate aerodynamics that are adequate for our purposes. And they said, well, the other places theyd done training had full motion simulators, so they were better in that way. Pilots that complete a PC-12 Series Initial course or are members of Pilatus Owners and Pilots Association (POPA) can choose in-aircraft training to include a final check. Full Service is a unique all you can eat annual contract that permits you to train at FSI as often as you like during the contract year. Those things havent changed, and I dont expect them to change in the future., What has changed, according to David, is the technology both the complexity of the avionics in the planes, and the technology SimCom uses to deliver its product. It operates 47 simulators and flight training devices. It's tempting to decry the disappearance of the classic country airport. 2 weeks I flew the new sim briefly,but it wasnt quite ready for prime time so I did all of my serious trainingin the AST 300. 40 hours per week All rights reserved. Myconclusion is that if cost and distance were no object, the best possible trainingstrategy might well be to rotate among the three firms in order to obtain the best thateach one has to offer. Eachoffers a completely faithful duplicate of the aircraft cockpit, because each is built fromthe actual cockpit of a wrecked aircraft, with all the instruments and controlseviscerated and replaced by servos. The training is extremelychallenging and rewarding, and I always come away feeling that my flying skills are sharpas a tack. Although full-motion sims have a lot of sex appeal, Im convinced that having motion isnot at all essential in terms of training value. Ive rehashed my sim time, trying to conclude if the sims deficiencies diminished the training. "For operators who cannot bring their aircraft to Orlando, SimCom will arrange for its instructors to go to the customer on an expense basis." Customers can get even more training in their. 303-941-8204, Private Courses are held at different locations depending on aircraft type, with some courses provided by our international training partner organisations, FlightSafety International and SIMCOM. Eric Hinson, CEO of SimCom, told us that initial training courses for turboprops usually run five to six days, and make use of Level A to D sims as well as nonmotion Flight Training Devices (FTD)depending on the type of aircraftand may include training in the customers airplane. Grand Prairie, TX But David remains optimistic. It is mandatory to procure user consent prior to running these cookies on your website. the cheapest) may suggest quieter roads or avoiding . The content of this website (graphics, text and any and all other elements) is Copyright 2023 by Piper Aircraft, Inc., and may not be reprinted or retransmitted in whole or part without the expressed written consent of Piper Aircraft, Inc. So I asked them how we were doing. Cause failures you just cant (or shouldnt) duplicate in the airplane. And that, David realized, could dramatically lower the cost of simulator training opening up the option of simulator-based training to many more pilots and owners. A combination of more than a decade of economic growth, a soft aviation insurance market (although that appears to be changing) and relatively low selling prices for used piston twins, turboprops and light jets has resulted in a healthy number of piston single owners giving serious thought to stepping up to more capableand demandingairplanes. Out of these cookies, the cookies that are categorized as necessary are stored on your browser as they are essential for the working of basic functionalities of the website. If FlightSafety is the Rolls Royce of piston sim training and Simcom is theLexus, then Recurrent Training Center would have to be the Ford pickup or the Dodgeminivan. In the case of RTCs generic AST 300 sims, its probably best to approach with amind-set of learning to fly a new aircraft, rather than thinking of the sim as a Cessna orPiper or Beech and then getting distracted by its lack of fidelity to the actual aircraft.In any case, by the second or third hour of sim training, youll find that youve prettymuch tuned out the differences between the sim and the aircraft and are fully immersed indealing with the meat of the training scenarios that confront you. An all-new Level 6 Flight Training Device for Pilatus' PC-12 NGX has received the Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) National Simulator Programme approval for training flight crews of Pilatus' latest iteration of its popular single-engine turboprop. Type Rating Finally, in-aircraft training tends to be a lot tougher on your aircraft than normaloperations. Nothing flies just quite like your aircraft. Its a bit more difficult to fly anon-motion sim (because you receive fewer cues), but one could argue that this results ingreater pilot proficiency rather than less. Nevertheless, it is not a one size fits all affair. I needed to renew my instrument currency anyway, and the opportunity to flyFlightSafetys full-motion full-vision twin-Cessna simulator sounded exciting. One big reason we go to recurrent training is because of the insurance mandate. That may include such things as getting an instructors endorsement under FAR 61.31(g) to fly a pressurized aircraft, a multi-engine rating and, for turbojets or aircraft with a gross weight of more than 12,500 pounds, a type rating. Aircraft Simulator Training in Santa Rosa, CA, advertises in my type-club magazine and I decided to give them a try. Since then, Ive returned for regular sim training every six months. I found it extremely useful. And I had lunch one day with these two King Air 200 pilots, whod flown for about 10 years, but were trying us out for recurrent training for the first time because our price was lower. Going to a different shop occasionally allows fresh eyes to inspect your prized bird and maybe find something others have missed. Dont believe me? (I was early.). David also decided to offer customized training, with no more than two students in a class. 602-454-1400, B 737 But that wasnt the only feature that set SimCom apart. By the time the threedays were over, I became convinced that anyone who flies a multiengine aircraft withoutthe benefit of regular simulator-based recurrent training is an accident waiting tohappen. Once you get into the world of jet type ratings training cost can be north of $30,000. Most ATD sims can be rented for $50 to $95 an hour. Cost for the single-engine course starts at $889 for a "generic IFR recurrent." For airplane-specific recurrent training, prices range from $1000 for Cessna singles, through $1600 for the Cirrus series. Headquartered in Orlando, Florida, SIMCOM is a privately owned learning institute that uses 'realistic' simulator-based training. $10,495, West Air Aviation Aircraft Mentoring Training Chris jotted down his first impressions of theexperience, and I think youll find them interesting. The reality is that just complying with the FARs will not be enough for your insurance companyit will require that you go through training at a program it approves, and most of those are simulator-based, something we applaud. SimCom is a much smaller company than its behemoth competitor, andthis seems to be reflected in a more informal corporate culture. SimCom has expanded and evolved over the years. Composite Repair SimCom began with one facility in Orlando, Florida. Back in 1989, businessman Wally David made an interesting observation: Computer graphics technology was improving so dramatically that a whole new realm of simulator training was about to become possible. What value do you place on your life and the lives of your passengers? 702-294-0188, 20 hours per We think anything less than that is a deal breaker. A good training facility should be willing to customize the training to fit your particular needs. Training begins in a classroom where the student is introduced to operation day flow, which means they start using desktop simulators that mimic the jets avionics suite. Aviation Services, Inc. I found that SimComoffers the same sort of professional-caliber sim training as FlightSafety, but with a fewsignificant differences. Destinations outside of this boundary run an additional $1.25 per mile. $5,475, B727 I went around and landed. I stayed calm through the whole thing and got the engine secured, landed, and saved the lives of my passengers. The value proposition for SimCom since the beginning, he says, was to give customers value, customized training, and a friendly atmosphere. Partner Pricing Program provides reduced tuition for two pilots who train together, taking the same FSI course at the same place and time. Simcom was founded about a decade ago to provide alower-cost alternative to FlightSafety for piston twin pilots. (Yes, its a 421 sim, but has profiles and swappable instruments for other Twin Cessnas. Sim training is such an intense experience that mostcurricula limit pilots to two hours of left-seat time per day. 52 hours/week SIMCOM has restructured its pricing. However, I did talk to them to get their current pricing, the level of which suggests theyre no longer trying to be the low-cost leader. Initial Training That answer is variable with each of us. (They also offer turboproptraining for the Beech King Air, Piper Cheyenne, and Pilatus PC-12.) Your sim instructorevaluates how you deal with these problems, and points out areas in which yourdecision-making and contingency planning and use of available resources might have beenbetter. Now offering Gulfstream G650, Challenger 300/350, Phenom 300, and Pilatus PC-12NGx training! Dr. Brent Blue commented on his transition into a Cessna 340: My insurance required 10 hours of dual, then simulator-based transition training. SIMCOM training is top tier, but their business model recently seems to mirror the big corporate centers with pricing to match. In the same time it takes to fly an instrument approach inthe aircraft and fly back to the FAF, you might do three, four or five approaches in thesimulator. The vast majority ofFSIs resources are devoted to training airline and corporate pilots for jet and turbopropaircraft piston training represents a very small portion of their business. Tempe, AZ The list goes on. To the extent practical, SIMCOM schedules its training on client demand. Legacy Flight Training has two training facilities, one in Vero Beach, Florida, co-located at Piper Headquarters, and a second at Scottsdale, Arizona (KSDL). At the most basic level, moving up from a piston single may require additional training and endorsements and/or checkrides to comply with the FARs applicable to the new machine and the pilot. Weve always tried to do things in creative ways to allow us to provide customers with more value, David explains. A good simulator allows you to train for these and many other real-world challenges ina highly realistic setting. As a side note, weve found Level D sims are able to remarkably, realistically duplicate flight operations and are possessed of superb displays. All Rights Reserved. 800-441-5387, Flight Control Academy As a general rule of thumb, one hour in the simulator provides the training value of atleast three hours in the aircraft. Originally, SimCom focused on training for owner-operators of cabin-class, twin-engine piston aircraft pilots who wouldnt normally have access to simulator training. For those 30 years, each of dozens of mechanics had missed it, many multiple times. Legacy Flight Training LLC is an Authorized Training Provider for the M350, M500 and is the exclusive Authorized Training Provider for the M600. Sure, many have been plowed up for houses or 2023 Aviation Publishing Group. Until then, Id not recommend this program. Calling as a student (not an editor), I reached out to another facility Id previously visited, Glass Simulator Center (now SIMPRO) in Aurora, IL, but they didnt return my call. We provide many specialty courses, and are proud to introduce world-class, integrated Upset Prevention and Recovery Training (UPRT) through Aviation Performance Solutions (APS). PO Box 6692 Hinson openly discussed what is too often a dirty little secret in upgrade trainingwhile the syllabus may be standardized, much of the quality of the training is dependent on the quality and experience of the instructor. The facilities we spoke with said that they train to proficiency so the cost, simulator time and course time is subject to revision upward based on the ability of the pilot to meet the course standards. 500 Type A mechanic I trust once told me that its a good idea to take your aircraft to a different shop for the annual once in a while. Idconsidered myself a reasonably proficient pilot, but that initial experience in thesimulator was truly humbling. 407-852-5300, 1555 W University Drive, Suite 108 The airplane versus simulator training debate was settled decades agosimulators won. Being a solo student, I met with my instructor in an office. Im encouraged by SIMCOMs new, more competitive pricing, so thats a win. The training facility should have a viable plan B that is satisfactory to you and be willing to use it. 3814 Curtis Parkway FlightSafety Internationalis considered by many to be the gold standard for type-rating training. So for the sake ofvariety, I trained at Simcom a couple of times, and most recently I went through thetraining at RTC. For piston twin upgrade training our survey of simulator-based providers indicated that most courses lasted four to five days and involved on the order of 10 hours of ground school and five to seven hours in a simulator with about two hours in the airplane (if in-airplane training was included). I thought I was pretty competent after the dual until I got into the sim. We provide many specialty courses, and are proud to introduce world-class, integrated Upset Prevention and Recovery Training (UPRT) through Aviation Performance Solutions (APS). When that feeling starts to fade, its time to schedule another cycle. We received input from a number of pilots regarding their experience with upgrade training. The vision system is a differentmatter. Senior Editor Rick Durden has written for Aviation Consumer since 1994 and specializes in aviation law. TheChampaign training facility is housed in an off-airport storefront building that RTCshares with a travel agency, and is functional but hardly plush. 520-670-9583, Aircraft Dispatcher Many insurance companies require their insureds, particularly those flying more complex aircraft, to periodically attend recurrent training. Tucson, AZ Seniors 65+ and adults with disabilities receive a discounted rate of $2.00 each way within the general service boundary. While we agree with a 2012 study published in the International Journal of Aviation Psychology that concluded that there was no evidence that simulator motion improves flight performance in real aircraft, some users did not. But if you can fly the sim you can certainly fly the airplane. Miami, FL FSI has long tailored its training to fit the studentand provides mentor pilots to support owners after they complete training. Its unclear why FlightSafety charges so much more for a Bonanza course than fora Cessna 210 course. Copyright 2023 Flying Media. However, archived articles are not reviewed for accuracy following various changes in industry procedures and practices, FAA guidance or regulations. Childs Associates LP, although David is still president and CEO. Plus, of course, you can do ever so much more in the sim than in the airplane. As the new owner of a cabin-class, turbocharged twin, I was still reeling from the hourly fuel costs, which are more than double what I was used to in the Twin Comanche I used to fly. There are in-the-airplane-only training operations still in existence, but they have become rare. Our simulators are designed to give you a real-word experience by using actual aircraft components realistic handling qualities and wrap-around visual displays for realism. Ive often written about the challenges we face maintaining real instrument proficiency. The customized course costs the same as the standard Captains course, but runs only eight days instead of the standard 14, saving participants time and travel expense money. In addition to the type-specific courses, FlightSafety offers three genericinstrument refresher courses that concentrate on instrument flying subjects (weather,chart reading, ATC procedures, etc.) Schedule your DeSat training in conjunction with your aircraft training program while at SIMCOM. Program A The quality of individual instructors was a constant refrain in our conversations with users as they related good and bad training experiences. Myfirst exposure to serious simulator training took place in October of 1987,about six months after Id purchased my T310R. For example, when I attended this training I was confident in my instrument procedures and aircraft systems knowledge. Rick is an active CFII and holds an ATP with type ratings in the Douglas DC-3 and Cessna Citation. 760-476-0890, Flight Safety International Sign Up; Log In; Sign Up First Name Last Name Email Address I also found them to be a bit less faithful in simulating variousaircraft systems failures. 858-756-8748, CS 525/CS In a previous article about recurrent sim training facilities (Sim Training Centers in November, 2016), Id somewhat bashed SIMCOM, saying, SIMCOM training is top tier, but their business model recently seems to mirror the big corporate centers with pricing to match. Because of that conclusion I really didnt want to go to SIMCOM. FlightSafety has apparently taken note of this. 3710 South Park Avenue, Suite 704 OK Aviation Either by offering an equivalent product at a lower price, or more product at the same price. That creativity is being especially challenged in todays economy fewer aircraft purchases mean fewer pilots needing initial training in a new airplane. 878 Greenview Drive For pilots with at least a few hundred hours in similar airplanes, a simulator-only program is, in our opinion, perfectly satisfactory. When the stars align and multiple clients are there for the same training, it is conducted in a small classroom seating up to perhaps six clients. Mine requires it every two years for my twin-engine, pressurized, Cessna 340A. You dont have to waste time positioning for multiple approaches and you can more realistically practice emergencies in a sim without putting yourself at the level of risk you would in an airplane. If a place's COL index is below 100, it's cheaper than the national average. The Thinking Pilots Flight Manual or, How to Survive Flying Little Airplanes and Have a Ball Doing It, Vols. It is solely the pilots responsibility to ensure that his/her actions comply with current best practices and regulations. But the companies separated in 2006, so the only airline-oriented flight training SimCom now provides is in the Jetstream 41 and the Dornier 328. The pet scenario almost invariably involves flying the airplane at the edge of its abilities and will help you get to know the capabilities of the airplane. Email info@ok-aviation.cz. I didnt find that the addition of motion added any significant training value tothat simulator. After all, sim development was pushed by the airlines because their professional pilots were killing themselves during in-airplane training. For single-engine pilots (Beech Bonanza, Cessna 210, Mooney, Piper PA28 and PA32),RTC offers a two-day recurrent course for $785, or a two-visit annual contract for $1,335. Ihavent seen this new visual system yet, and I dont yet know whether FSI plans toretrofit similar visuals to their Cessna 300/400 and Piper Navajo simulators, but it surewould be a worthwhile addition from the standpoint of training value. Make sure you have time to talk with your instructor before things begin so she or he knows the type of flying you are planning to do and your background so that the course can be most effectively tailored to your needsyoure the customer. Recently, however, the company has introduced several cost-saving training options. Scores are presented in relation to the national average of 100. So whether we go because the insurance forces us to, or we just go because its a good idea, what are we looking for while were there? FlightSafety offers full-motion sims, while Simcom and RTCdo not. If you have difficulty viewing the website, contact us at 1.877.879.0275. 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